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Apr. 12th, 2005

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from: http://www.esia.net/Forms_of_Stalking.htm



False victims, as they are sometimes known, use a variety of situations to attract attention to themselves. In some cases they may harass their own family and friends in order to fabricate false evidence or witness reports. This type of stalker firmly believes that he or she is the real victim.

In a sense there is a victim - the perpetrator. Why victimize yourself? Perhaps the person noticed how kind and considerate others were to them, when they presented themselves as a victim some time in the past. In short - the perpetrator/victim takes immense pleasure from being cared for and being the center of attention. One very common trait of this type of stalker is to file false police report(s) against the "real stalking victim."

These stalkers are frequently delusional and irrational. When presented with the facts, this type of stalker will rationalize and manipulate everything she can and ignore even a direct question, in order to preserve her fantasy of being the victim. She will initiate conflicts and then twist them in her favor in an attempt to gain positive attention for herself. She feels very inferior to the victim whom she admires greatly, although she will rarely admit this to be true. In reality, this kind of stalker suffers from a severe lack of self-esteem.

This form of stalker, believing herself to be inferior, wronged or rejected by the ones they admire the most, begin harassing, following the victim, spreading tales, keeping tabs, and in many instances plot revenge. The primary motive is to bring the victim down by any means she can.

Another trait that is showing up more and more in this type of stalking is Munchhausen (munch-how-zen) syndrome or in layman terms "The Munch Bunch." This is the name given to patients who fake illness or obtain hospital treatment in order to get sympathy from family, friends, and most often the actual victim's attention. These individuals are a considerable waste of medical resources. Hospitals will often hold a file on these people in an attempt to recognize them before they are unwittingly admitted for unnecessary treatment. The major problem is that they skip from hospital to hospital and doctor to doctor.

Time after time you'll hear a victim say, "The hospital called, she attempted suicide or she's having a heart attack because I wouldn't meet with her." Far too often these individuals know how to "fake" illnesses or even go to the point of attempted suicide but knowing just how far to go before it becomes life threatening. All to get attention!

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From:_wirehead_
Date:April 11th, 2005 06:13 pm (UTC)
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huh. interesting. seems that "false victim" behavior like that is actually kind of common, at least at a low level... like my friend who said s/he can't break up with hir S.O. because "s/he would probably try to kill hirself".

to which i say "wtf??" i mean, who could still have any respect for someone after they pull something like that?
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From:helixnine
Date:April 11th, 2005 08:21 pm (UTC)
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Can one really be the victim of one's own S.O.'s stalking attempts?
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From:elvendude
Date:April 11th, 2005 06:59 pm (UTC)
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*nods*
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 11th, 2005 07:29 pm (UTC)
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You don't know it yet, but secretly, I'm stalking you...

-Ogre^U-Anonymous
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From:ferrousoxide
Date:April 11th, 2005 07:40 pm (UTC)
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i've logged you, and know where you live and who your ISP is...just you watch it ;)

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From:ilcylic
Date:April 11th, 2005 11:57 pm (UTC)
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If you know where I live, does that mean you'll come visit?

-Anonymous
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From:ferrousoxide
Date:April 12th, 2005 05:41 am (UTC)
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yes. in May.
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From:suzy_hendrix
Date:April 11th, 2005 08:48 pm (UTC)
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You could even say that faking illnesses to keep a doctor in her life could be considered stalking doctors.
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From:ferrousoxide
Date:April 11th, 2005 09:48 pm (UTC)
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true that.

by the way. never knew you were watching. i read your journal too...maybe i should just friend you like a normal person instead of lurking like a stalker ;)
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From:suzy_hendrix
Date:April 12th, 2005 09:46 pm (UTC)

friend as a verb.

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*stalkstalkstalk*

Actually I was specifically curious to see if you had anything to say on the matter and you do. I'll friend you back, thanks.
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From:gorey_ballerina
Date:April 12th, 2005 06:25 am (UTC)
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Munchhausen by proxy (I think, also called the "Medea" syndrome by the media, or at least linked to the Medea syndrome) is even creepier.

(you probably know this one, too, but it's when a caregiver hurts the one they're caring for to get sympathy. Like a mother with an ailing child. She learns that she gets sympathy and assistance, so she sabotages her childs health to keep getting the attention and support).

Now I have the chills.
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From:suzy_hendrix
Date:April 12th, 2005 09:46 pm (UTC)
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that is surprisingly applicable.
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From:gorey_ballerina
Date:April 13th, 2005 06:46 am (UTC)
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Ack! Applicable to what? *now I'm scared*
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From:netan9el
Date:April 12th, 2005 09:37 am (UTC)
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Working at mental health we saw alot of people like that. They'd even try to do it to the staff.

Sometimes you can't help but feel bad for them but usually you just wanted to smack the shit out of them. It always depended on the situation. Usually the ones we saw were suicidal.

Less stalker types other than the ones stalking the docs. I hate stalkers or people who can't get over it so make up a situation that didi happen in order to make it look like they were abused >:P
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From:ferrousoxide
Date:April 12th, 2005 11:29 am (UTC)
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yeah, well, there's crazy and there's just plain evil...

did you get my email, btw?
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From:netan9el
Date:April 12th, 2005 04:18 pm (UTC)
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o_0 email??
*gets uber excited*
I haven't yet, which email did you send it to? I have to many :<
*goes to search each one*

(can you tell I love getting email?)
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From:ferrousoxide
Date:April 12th, 2005 04:33 pm (UTC)
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erm. you sent me an email ages back from your netlane.com acct...it's the only one i had for you, so i used that one
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From:moonsail
Date:April 12th, 2005 10:44 am (UTC)
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Stupid. Baka. Dumm. Stom.

Having both known people who did this and have had this done to them, I have no (0) respect for people who do that. Damaging an innocent person's reputation for narcissistic porpoises, bah. Things like Munchhausen Syndrome and false victims are excellant examples of why Vanity is one of the seven deadly sins.

And now, monkeys!
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From:ferrousoxide
Date:April 12th, 2005 11:44 am (UTC)
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damn those narcissistic porpoises. always looking at the reflections of themselves in the under-sruface of the water...
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