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feeling like a bit of a moron - 1370°C

Jul. 20th, 2005

03:13 pm - feeling like a bit of a moron

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so, i've finished watching both seasons of Carnivale. the show is amazingly beautiful, haunting, and attention grabbing. but there is still so much stuff i don't *get* and it's making me feel like i'm a few side-show acts short of a 10 in 1.


-in season 1, when Jonesy goes into Management's tent and sees no one, he and Samson have a "there is no Management" discussion. Samson's explanation at the time is that if Management doesn't want to be seen, he won't be. however, in season 2, after Management has actually been killed, Jonesy goes in again, doesn't see Management, has a "there is no Management" discussion with Samson, who admits Management has passed on. while Jonesy eventually agrees to keep this a secret, Samson did risk Jonesy telling everyone in the carnival. as he's got no issues with lying generally, why not just stick to the season 1 explanation?

-late in season 2, Brother Justin shows the image of the big dead tree on his chest to someone and says "my flesh has been burned and scared" and asks what it means. the response is, "your enemy has received his boon." yet...early in season 2, Brother Justin went to an Asian whore to have the tree tattooed on. am i missing something? the image doesn't seem to have changed at all...

-Lodz, who is dead but possessing the body of Ruthie, tells Lila that she will be seeing him soon, not in Ruthie's body but, "in the flesh." it's never mentioned again, and we do not, in fact, see Lodz again. was this something intended to be wrapped up in the season 3 that will never happen?

-how is it that good and evil can "switch" families seemingly at random? Brother Justin is Management's son, while Ben is Scudder's son. in the older generation, we sometimes get the sense that Management was the good and Scudder the evil. Now, Ben is the good and Brother Justin the evil. yet, even more confusingly, after Brother Justin is killed in the final battle, Sophie, who is his daughter, seems to have inherited the evil.

-on that note, why did Management and Scudder stop their own battle? they seemed to be at some sort of stalemate...or something. hard to tell because Scudder, as we see him in the show, wasn't evil at all. he was just frightened and weak. so maybe their generation wasn't a good/evil split but they were merely the ones who would engender those who had to have the actual battle?

-what on earth is up with Sister Iris? at times she seems to be conspiring with Norman against Brother Justin, but at times she's supporting Justin outright, even killing people to protect him.


so for those of you who've seen it...maybe you could explain these things to me if i simply wasn't paying enough attention, or at least confirm they're ambiguities that are open to interpretation.

Current Mood: hrmmm...

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From:ickle_tayto
Date:July 20th, 2005 08:13 am (UTC)
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can i borrow those off you as I would love to sit down and watch the series back to back.. I kept missing it on TG4.
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From:ferrousoxide
Date:July 20th, 2005 08:21 am (UTC)
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indeed. my copies are currently on my harddrive, but Conor's just made DVD copies, so should be easy enough to sort out.
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From:ickle_tayto
Date:July 20th, 2005 09:09 am (UTC)
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ta v much
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From:gorey_ballerina
Date:July 20th, 2005 09:25 am (UTC)
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OK, now I REALLY have to watch Season 2. :)
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